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Post  Shemaforash on Sun Apr 04, 2010 7:43 am

What is your name in Warband and on TaleWorlds?
Shemaforash
Are you over the age of 15?
I'm turning 15, I keep myself on a mature level,
How good do you speak or understand English? Do you have a working microphone/headset?
I speak pretty good English, And I don't think I have that many flaws on my grammar. I have a working headset.
Where are you from? I'm from Europe, Sweden. Scandinavian that is! Call me viking.


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Post  SCGavin on Sun Apr 04, 2010 7:45 am

Welcome to the Guard!
You are under observation
Please change your in-game name to: IG_Rct_Hardstyle
(Rct stands for Recruit)

Before you are accepted as a regular member, you will have to play with us regularly, use the forums and TeamSpeak. In order for the clan to earn and keep a good reputation, you are also asked not to whine or insult in-game or on the forums and to try to behave as maturely as possible. Being immature occasionally, spamming in the chat or forums and cursing isn't forbidden, but it should definitely not be the rule.

You are now added as a pending Guardsman and should see some new areas on this forum.
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Post  Shemaforash on Sun Apr 04, 2010 8:43 am

Great thank you Smile
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Re: Application - Hardstyle, now Shemaforash [not accepted]

Post  Lugh on Mon Apr 05, 2010 12:40 pm

Hardstyle, two negative issues have arisen during your trial.

1. Disputing admin action taken against a player who broke server rules and then breaking server rules yourself.

I'm sure you're aware of the incident I mention. Horse_teeth killed a few of his teammates, unaware that friendly fire was enabled. I took typical action we always take in such instances, a warning and then boot from server. When Horse_teeth returned to our server, he apologised for the teamkills and said he hadn't realised friendly fire was enabled. The issue should have been settled there. However, you decided that the boot wasn't enough and proceeded to spam the kick button Horse_teeth, before starting an embarrasing discussion on public chat, insisting that the guy should be banned from the server. When I informed you of the admin rules for our server, you responded with something along the lines of, 'well he should be banned' before continuing your public whine. I suggested you take the issue to the forums, but still, you continued.

You had no right to question the action taken, especially in such an embarrassing manner. Likewise, you had no right to persistently kick a teammate. Kick spamming a teammate is a bootable (and bannable) offence.

2. Roof exploiting in the Nord Village map.

Clan rules explicitly state that we do not tolerate exploits of any kind. On multiple ocassions I've caught you accessing the bugged rooftops on the Nord Village map (see below screenshots).





After the first incident, you were warned to get down, yet continued to exploit.

Can you please respond to these events? They cast a very negative light on your application to join the Guard.
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Post  SCGavin on Mon Apr 05, 2010 12:46 pm

Lugh wrote:Can you please respond to these events? They cast a very negative light on your application to join the Guard.
I am rather interested in those answers myself.
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Re: Application - Hardstyle, now Shemaforash [not accepted]

Post  Sarosu on Mon Apr 05, 2010 12:58 pm

I just want to say, that those teamkills were VERY intentional, and he were obvisouly playing stupid after he entered the server again after being kicked. He really deserved a ban in my opinion, no doubt about that, and it would've been nice if lugh had listened to the people close to the teamkillings, since lugh were on the other team.

On the other hand, the kick worked. He didn't do anymore teamkills, but I'm pretty sure he will in the future when he sees no admin online. But it worked for now, so it was satisfieing while playing Smile

And the arguing were really anoying yes. Hardstyle took it too far imo. Arguing like that on our puplic server gives the clan a bad image, and if lugh changed his decision, it would also be embarrasing. It would've been best to let it go, and respect lugh decision. It was a bit immature of Hardstyle.

I don't know if any of you hate me for meddling, but I just want the guys reading to see it from a neutral perspective, of someone who were there Smile

*note I didn't see anything about the roof exploit. I saw some dudes on the roof, but didn't think it as a bug, I thought it was in the game. And didn't see who the dudes was.
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Post  SCGavin on Mon Apr 05, 2010 1:03 pm

Sarosu wrote:I just want to say, that those teamkills were VERY intentional, and he were obvisouly playing stupid after he entered the server again after being kicked. He really deserved a ban in my opinion, no doubt about that, and it would've been nice if lugh had listened to the people close to the teamkillings, since lugh were on the other team.
That's Lughs call. If Lugh thinks a ban is fitting, he bans him. If he doesn't, he doesn't. If someone is teamkilling intentionally, a ban can be used. However warning and/or kicking the culprit first is a much more user-friendly approach. It's possible that the player is new to the game and did kill the others because he wasn't aware of being in a team. That's no excuse for teamkilling, but it doesn't warrant a ban, as it isn't malicious. I don't know if that was the case, but neither could Lugh as he was on the other team. He could have listened to those closest to the action and issued a permanent ban for the player, or he could give the culprit the benefit of the doubt and only kick him. I'll go take a look at the logs to see what was said.
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Post  Shemaforash on Mon Apr 05, 2010 1:11 pm

bounce


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Post  SCGavin on Mon Apr 05, 2010 1:48 pm

Comments in brackets are by me, red parts are important. Rest is interesting as well. I'm not sure what to do about this, yet.

18:52:07 - *DEAD* [IG_Rct_Sarosu] kick horse_teeth
18:52:10 - *DEAD* [Scub] i ran and im unashamed
18:52:10 - *DEAD* [IG_Vet_Lugh] why?
18:52:12 - *DEAD* [IG_Rct_Sarosu] teamkiller
18:52:18 - *DEAD* [IG_Rct_Sarosu] intentionally in spawn
18:52:32 - [IG_Vet_Lugh] Horse_teeth, intentional teamkilling can get you banned [Lugh gave a warning]
18:52:37 - Horse_Teeth <img=ico_spear> Theoden
18:52:37 - [IG_Vet_Lugh] if you do it again, I'll be forced to kick

18:52:39 - Horse_Teeth <img=ico_spear> Abhorash
18:52:43 - Horse_Teeth is kicked. [Lugh kicked him]
18:52:44 - <img=ico_headshot> Horse_Teeth
18:52:54 - *DEAD* [Abhorash] kick horse
18:52:54 - [IG_Rct_Hardstyle] kick him
18:52:57 - [gump044] a shield here
18:52:57 - [IG_Vet_Lugh] he's gone

18:53:02 - Horse_Teeth has joined the game with ID:
18:53:04 - *DEAD* [Theoden] damn
18:53:04 - [IG_Rct_Hardstyle] ty for infromning
18:53:11 - [IG_Rct_Hardstyle] ty
18:54:00 - [IG_Vet_Lugh] horse_teeth, if you teamkill again, I wont hesitate to ban you [another warning]
18:54:20 - [IG_Rct_Hardstyle] he wants to get banned dude
18:54:46 - [Horse_Teeth] IS FRIENDLY FIRE ON? SORRY GUYS
18:54:53 - [IG_Rct_Hardstyle] lol , what a lie
18:54:56 - [NYX] LOL
18:54:56 - [Stranle] idiot, permaban
18:55:00 - [IG_Rct_Hardstyle] ban him
18:55:03 - [Abhorash] yeah
18:55:04 - [IG_Vet_Lugh] he's been warned
18:55:07 - [IG_Vet_Lugh] no need to ban
18:55:07 - [Abhorash] WHAY
18:55:09 - [IG_Rct_Hardstyle] he tked 4 times?
18:55:12 - [Abhorash] *WHAT
18:55:26 - [Abhorash] I knew it was on after the 1st kill for certain
18:55:26 - IG_Vet_Torecito <img=ico_bow> ZeHiR
18:55:34 - [Abhorash] and so will he have
18:58:18 - [Horse_Teeth] Hardstyle stop kicking me
18:58:38 - [IG_Rct_Hardstyle] wtf u talking about?
18:58:44 - [Abhorash] after 4 tks I'm surprised your not banned
18:58:52 - [IG_Vet_Lugh] He was warned, and kicked
18:58:54 - [Horse_Teeth] wtf u doing
18:58:56 - [IG_Vet_Lugh] we kick before banning here
18:58:59 - [Abhorash] 4 tks on purpose I mean
18:58:59 - [IG_Rct_Hardstyle] you were shooting at me
18:59:01 - [IG_Vet_Lugh] we kick before banning, here
18:59:08 - [IG_Rct_Hardstyle] after 4 kills?
18:59:11 - [Horse_Teeth] no, he kicked me as in E
18:59:15 - [IG_Vet_Lugh] the guy didn't know
18:59:27 - [IG_Vet_Lugh] he apologised upon return, just leave it at that
18:59:49 - [IG_Rct_Hardstyle] people usually get banned after 2 tks on purpose [They do - if the admin in questions knows without a doubt that it was on purpose.]
18:59:53 - [IG_Rct_Hardstyle] he did 4 and is not even kicked [He was.]
18:59:54 - [IG_Vet_Lugh] Oh really?
19:00:04 - [IG_Vet_Lugh] and how many people have you seen banned from this server, Hard?
19:00:16 - [IG_Rct_Hardstyle] Not this server, i'm talking about every other server i've been on.
19:00:32 - [IG_Vet_Lugh] Is that a fact?
19:00:35 - [IG_Vet_Lugh] I'll wager it's not.
19:00:39 - [IG_Rct_Hardstyle] Just saying.
19:01:05 - [IG_Vet_Lugh] people make mistakes, bans are hard to undo
19:01:15 - [IG_Vet_Lugh] well, not hard, just extra hassle
19:01:20 - [IG_Rct_Hardstyle] ban for a day? [Options: Kick or permanent ban. If you don't know those options don't discuss them with an admin as if you do.]
19:01:25 - [IG_Rct_Hardstyle] 1 hour?
19:01:28 - [IG_Vet_Lugh] the kick worked
19:01:35 - [IG_Vet_Lugh] I'm not discussing this any more. [Lugh asks you to stop.]
19:01:44 - [IG_Rct_Hardstyle] Let's just leave it. [You agree]
19:01:51 - [IG_Rct_Hardstyle] -.-
19:01:56 - [IG_Rct_Hardstyle] why did you just kick me down the ledge
19:02:07 - [Horse_Teeth] wtf are you talking about? stop trying to get be banned
19:02:40 - [IG_Rct_Hardstyle] did i mention any names?
19:02:41 - [IG_Rct_Hardstyle] no
19:02:45 - [IG_Rct_Hardstyle] why are you accusing yourself?
19:02:53 - *DEAD* [Abhorash] how about you never hit people on your team ever again
19:02:53 - [Horse_Teeth] i know for a fact you were referring to me
19:02:56 - [Horse_Teeth] don't take me for a fool
19:03:03 - [IG_Rct_Hardstyle] don't kick me down the ledge?
19:03:07 - [IG_Rct_Hardstyle] and i take you for a fool
19:03:08 - [IG_Rct_Hardstyle] 4 tks [Either you feel intentionally teamkilled and reopen the discussion by telling that to Lugh, or you don't and don't make it a topic.]

19:03:21 - [Horse_Teeth] it's obvious you're trying hard to get me banned
19:03:23 - [Horse_Teeth] leave it
19:03:30 - [IG_Rct_Hardstyle] why did you kick me down the ledge then? it was a reason
19:03:32 - *DEAD* [Abhorash] is there not a timed ban on this game?
19:03:53 - [IG_Rct_Sarosu] Take this discussion at the forum. don't take it on this server please.
19:03:54 - [Stranle] screw timed, permaban this griever
19:04:07 - [Abhorash] ok
19:04:37 - [IG_Rct_Sarosu] I see your point hardstyle, and also lughs. he deserves a ban, but the kick worked as intended. No matter what, hardstyle, lugh is your superiour, so his words over yours and mine afaik
19:04:56 - [IG_Rct_Hardstyle] Doesnt mean i can hold a disscussion does it?
19:05:02 - [IG_Rct_Hardstyle] can't*
19:05:07 - [IG_Vet_Lugh] take it to the forums, not ingame [Final word from Lugh]
19:05:14 - [IG_Rct_Hardstyle] I really dont' think he has forums. [It's not like he needs to be part of the discussion... This would've been a good part to stop.]
19:05:20 - [IG_Rct_Hardstyle] grammar fail there.
19:05:27 - [Horse_Teeth] NYK is trying to kick me off
19:05:30 - [IG_Rct_Sarosu] yes, on the server. I think it will be best to do it on the forum. so everyone who wants to can get something to say. even the guildmaster. maybe we need to set some ground rules there
19:06:00 - [IG_Rct_Sarosu] we have a guildforum, yes. if that's what you mean
19:06:10 - [IG_Rct_Hardstyle] No i mean horse_teeth problably dosnt have forums.
19:06:13 - [IG_Rct_Sarosu] oh
19:06:33 - [IG_Rct_Hardstyle] lol, i found a glitch [I thought you didn't know it was a glitch?]
19:06:42 - [IG_Rct_Hardstyle] to take no fall damage
19:06:45 - [Horse_Teeth] how?
19:07:02 - [IG_Rct_Hardstyle] if you jump against the wall that you can't go to [And you tell people how to do it? Even the guy you wanted to be perma-banned?]
19:07:08 - [IG_Rct_Hardstyle] u will just glide, but not take damage
19:07:12 - [Horse_Teeth] ok
19:07:16 - [IG_Rct_Hardstyle] :S

19:08:13 - *SPEC* [IG_Vet_Lugh] People on the roof: STOP EXPLOITING
19:09:02 - [Horse_Teeth] help nyx is kicking me
19:09:33 - [Horse_Teeth] nyx r u stuck
19:10:20 - [Horse_Teeth] nyx kicked me off the battlements
19:10:28 - [IG_Rct_Hardstyle] you kicked e off to
19:30:27 - *DEAD* [Mr_Gabriel_Blathywaithe_Esq] Hey guys! Do you know any glitches on this map?
19:30:36 - *DEAD* [IG_Rct_Hardstyle] there is alot of glitches.. [So you didn'T know what you were doing was glitching, but you know there are glitches. What are they?]
19:30:42 - *DEAD* [Mr_Gabriel_Blathywaithe_Esq] Can you show me?
19:30:47 - *DEAD* [IG_Rct_Hardstyle] I'm not gonna abuse them. [Okay, this is good.]
19:30:56 - *DEAD* [Mr_Gabriel_Blathywaithe_Esq] Why not? It's dun!
19:30:59 - *DEAD* [Mr_Gabriel_Blathywaithe_Esq] fun*
19:31:01 - *DEAD* [Lionia] but of course! theres a glitch that sends you back to server select....
19:31:05 - *DEAD* [IG_Rct_Hardstyle] Because if you abuse glitches here. [Good, too.]
19:31:20 - *DEAD* [IG_Rct_Hardstyle] U get warned
19:31:29 - *DEAD* [Mr_Gabriel_Blathywaithe_Esq] That sucks
19:31:33 - *DEAD* [IG_Rct_Hardstyle] No it doesnt?
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Post  Shemaforash on Mon Apr 05, 2010 2:04 pm

18:52:43 - Horse_Teeth is kicked. [Lugh kicked him], Me: I did not see this one.

18:59:53 - [IG_Rct_Hardstyle] he did 4 and is not even kicked [He was.] Me: Read above

19:01:20 - [IG_Rct_Hardstyle] ban for a day? [Options: Kick or permanent ban. If you don't know those options don't discuss them with an admin as if you do.] Me: I thought it had, but then i reconsidered that Mount & Blade is not that advanced. Will remember this.

19:03:08 - [IG_Rct_Hardstyle] 4 tks [Either you feel intentionally teamkilled and reopen the discussion by telling that to Lugh, or you don't and don't make it a topic.]
Me: He kicked me down the ledge so that I landed between 2 people and had half health down. I made it out and i kind of had the lowest health possible. I take that as a teamkill.

[color=red]19:06:33 - [IG_Rct_Hardstyle] lol, i found a glitch [I thought you didn't know it was a glitch?] Me: That's not the glitch. And I realised after that it's an idiotic act to tell someone how to glitch.

19:08:13 - *SPEC* [IG_Vet_Lugh] People on the roof: STOP EXPLOITING Me: Did not see this one either.

[color=red]19:30:27 - *DEAD* [Mr_Gabriel_Blathywaithe_Esq] Hey guys! Do you know any glitches on this map?
19:30:36 - *DEAD* [IG_Rct_Hardstyle] there is alot of glitches.. [So you didn'T know what you were doing was glitching, but you know there are glitches. What are they?] Me: I thought glitches was like, getting of the map, walking in the sky, stuff that gives you advantage of the other team. But i did not know that roof walking was a glitch, i thought it was intended.

19:30:47 - *DEAD* [IG_Rct_Hardstyle] I'm not gonna abuse them. [Okay, this is good.] Me: Realising that i shouldnt have told the other glitch to horse_teeth.
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Post  SCGavin on Mon Apr 05, 2010 2:16 pm

Hardstyle wrote:18:52:43 - Horse_Teeth is kicked. [Lugh kicked him], Me: I did not see this one.

18:59:53 - [IG_Rct_Hardstyle] he did 4 and is not even kicked [He was.] Me: Read above
Actually you couldn't see it. However Lugh also said "He's gone", which means the same and could be seen.

Hardstyle wrote:
19:01:20 - [IG_Rct_Hardstyle] ban for a day? [Options: Kick or permanent ban. If you don't know those options don't discuss them with an admin as if you do.] Me: I thought it had, but then i reconsidered that Mount & Blade is not that advanced. Will remember this.
Okay.

Hardstyle wrote:
19:03:08 - [IG_Rct_Hardstyle] 4 tks [Either you feel intentionally teamkilled and reopen the discussion by telling that to Lugh, or you don't and don't make it a topic.] Me: He kicked me down the ledge so that I landed between 2 people and had half health down. I made it out and i kind of had the lowest health possible. I take that as a teamkill.
Well, the guy sounds more and more like an intentional teamkiller.

Hardstyle wrote:
19:06:33 - [IG_Rct_Hardstyle] lol, i found a glitch [I thought you didn't know it was a glitch?] Me: That's not the glitch. And I realised after that it's an idiotic act to tell someone how to glitch.

19:08:13 - *SPEC* [IG_Vet_Lugh] People on the roof: STOP EXPLOITING Me: Did not see this one either.
To the first: Indeed. Second: Lugh was SPEC (=DEAD), so you could indeed not see it.

Hardstyle wrote:
[color=red]19:30:27 - *DEAD* [Mr_Gabriel_Blathywaithe_Esq] Hey guys! Do you know any glitches on this map?
19:30:36 - *DEAD* [IG_Rct_Hardstyle] there is alot of glitches.. [So you didn'T know what you were doing was glitching, but you know there are glitches. What are they?] Me: I thought glitches was like, getting of the map, walking in the sky, stuff that gives you advantage of the other team. But i did not know that roof walking was a glitch, i thought it was intended.
Well, if you are on a roof that has no ladder to it, you can guess that finding a way up requires some testing or knowledge as to where to get up. Furthermore it requires some jumps, some of the requiring quite some skill. That is an advantage, simply because the way up isn't marked (ladder, stairs). You state lack of knowledge as your reason and that is okay. However you also stated that there are glitches. What would those be if not the walking on roofs?

Hardstyle wrote:
19:30:47 - *DEAD* [IG_Rct_Hardstyle] I'm not gonna abuse them. [Okay, this is good.] Me: Realising that i shouldnt have told the other glitch to horse_teeth.
Glitching and jumping is fun and we could do some of that when we are together. However telling random public players about it and abusing it (shooting from there) is not okay. We could get together on TeamSpeak (maybe after training), lock the server and do some glitching for fun. All okay, as long as those ways are not shown to the public, or -even worse - employed by a clan-member while the rules state them as forbidden.
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Post  Shemaforash on Mon Apr 05, 2010 2:21 pm

SCGavin wrote:
Hardstyle wrote:
[color=red]19:30:27 - *DEAD* [Mr_Gabriel_Blathywaithe_Esq] Hey guys! Do you know any glitches on this map?
19:30:36 - *DEAD* [IG_Rct_Hardstyle] there is alot of glitches.. [So you didn'T know what you were doing was glitching, but you know there are glitches. What are they?] Me: I thought glitches was like, getting of the map, walking in the sky, stuff that gives you advantage of the other team. But i did not know that roof walking was a glitch, i thought it was intended.
Well, if you are on a roof that has no ladder to it, you can guess that finding a way up requires some testing or knowledge as to where to get up. Furthermore it requires some jumps, some of the requiring quite some skill. That is an advantage, simply because the way up isn't marked (ladder, stairs). You state lack of knowledge as your reason and that is okay. However you also stated that there are glitches. What would those be if not the walking on roofs?

True true, When your in the game and see alot of people doing it you don't really think about it do you? There are always glitches on every game on every map. That's my point. And really I just said that there are glitches because many people talk about stuff and when you ask them about it they don't have any answer or only know like one glitch. So not really caring about what i said there.

SCGavin wanted me to post that i changed my name to; Shemaforash.
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Post  SCGavin on Tue Apr 06, 2010 4:52 pm

Not accepted, as you broke server- and thereby clan-rules again by kicking and afterwards killing a player who neither greeted nor attacked on a duel server. Furthermore I don't think that you're current behaviour fits well into the clan. However I wish you luck with your Warband-future.
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Post  Shemaforash on Tue Apr 06, 2010 9:18 pm

SCGavin wrote:Not accepted, as you broke server- and thereby clan-rules again by kicking and afterwards killing a player who neither greeted nor attacked on a duel server. Furthermore I don't think that you're current behaviour fits well into the clan. However I wish you luck with your Warband-future.

What? Who did i kill without greeting? Was it against Your_Mother? I did not know that you were supposed to greet, it was first time playing on a duel server? And after i apologised, but it's all your decision.
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Post  SCGavin on Wed Apr 07, 2010 4:48 am

Shemaforash wrote:
SCGavin wrote:Not accepted, as you broke server- and thereby clan-rules again by kicking and afterwards killing a player who neither greeted nor attacked on a duel server. Furthermore I don't think that you're current behaviour fits well into the clan. However I wish you luck with your Warband-future.

What? Who did i kill without greeting? Was it against Your_Mother? I did not know that you were supposed to greet, it was first time playing on a duel server? And after i apologised, but it's all your decision.
Yes, against Your_Mother. You did greet everyone else, so either you knew the rules or you just did what everyone did and decided not to do it in that case. Furthermore, seeing that you were on the server with some veterans, you could have asked them for the rules or taken a look at the dueling rules on TaleWorlds (stickied thread). The past issue should have made you cautious as to breaking rules, so prevention in form of information might have been useful.

It doesn't really matter, though, because in regards to the previous issue and chat-messages like "Fuck you" (didn't see that myself) and your general behaviour, I just don't think that you fit in well here. You answer the question "Are you over the age of 15?" with "I'm turning 15, I keep myself on a mature level,". You're general behaviour in chat and in-game doesn't support that claim in my opinion and in the opinion of some others I asked.

You don't seem like a bad guy, but when I founded this clan I has a pretty mature member-base in mind and believe that I made that clear with the questions and pending-messages. So while you might not fit in here all that well, other clans might have no problems with the issues I have a problem with.
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Post  Shemaforash on Wed Apr 07, 2010 8:14 am

SCGavin wrote:
Shemaforash wrote:
SCGavin wrote:Not accepted, as you broke server- and thereby clan-rules again by kicking and afterwards killing a player who neither greeted nor attacked on a duel server. Furthermore I don't think that you're current behaviour fits well into the clan. However I wish you luck with your Warband-future.

What? Who did i kill without greeting? Was it against Your_Mother? I did not know that you were supposed to greet, it was first time playing on a duel server? And after i apologised, but it's all your decision.
Yes, against Your_Mother. You did greet everyone else, so either you knew the rules or you just did what everyone did and decided not to do it in that case. Furthermore, seeing that you were on the server with some veterans, you could have asked them for the rules or taken a look at the dueling rules on TaleWorlds (stickied thread). The past issue should have made you cautious as to breaking rules, so prevention in form of information might have been useful.

It doesn't really matter, though, because in regards to the previous issue and chat-messages like "Fuck you" (didn't see that myself) and your general behaviour, I just don't think that you fit in well here. You answer the question "Are you over the age of 15?" with "I'm turning 15, I keep myself on a mature level,". You're general behaviour in chat and in-game doesn't support that claim in my opinion and in the opinion of some others I asked.

You don't seem like a bad guy, but when I founded this clan I has a pretty mature member-base in mind and believe that I made that clear with the questions and pending-messages. So while you might not fit in here all that well, other clans might have no problems with the issues I have a problem with.

Good luck.
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